Collecting along Oregon Coast

by **AquaticEngineer** March 24th 2010, 2:47 am

http://www.dfw.state.or.us/fish/docs/2010_marine_zone_fish_regs.pdf

This is more or less the collection bible for where, when, and how much for the state of Oregon.

Looks like everywhere else but in these areas is open for collection, jetties, docks, what ever else as long as its not in the aboved named locations.

by **AquaticEngineer** March 27th 2010, 2:42 pm

Whooo Hooo !!! Just found out one of my friends I haven't seen for a while is dive certified and is gonna be collecting some stuff for me this summer once my system is up and running.

Looking for Pacific Spiny Lumpsuckers and Green Pipefish Happy Dance

Now if only I could get my tank cycled before then Sad

by Brent March 27th 2010, 9:16 pm

Lumpsuckers <3

by Rambo March 27th 2010, 11:50 pm

yeah cycling in coldwater tanks takes an average of 3 months. But it is worth it.
oh yeah this is random but, this forum looks awesome under Windows 7, I can actually see the logout button now! Very Happy

by Brent March 27th 2010, 11:59 pm

I agree. I have Windows 7 as well. Great program! Smile

by Bluntokian March 28th 2010, 6:17 pm

Yea. Mines legit (came with a laptop) but says its not genuine so I cant have my background Sad

by **Hero** April 11th 2010, 1:47 pm

Sounds great about the lumpsuckers! Practically the coolest fish in the hobby. Good luck with the pipefish.

by **AquaticEngineer** July 29th 2010, 3:53 pm

I sent this email to ODFW a couple weeks ago

AquaticEngineer wrote:I am curious what the policies regarding sales of non-commercial / non-sport invertebrates are? I am able to find information about what you can take and how many, but nothing about if I were to take a starfish alive and sell it.

Also, what if there was no profit involved and just an exchange of ownership?

Do you know where I can find this information?

Thanks,
Stuart

Got this back from them today:

Hi Stewart,
Sorry I’m slow getting back to you—your email got buried.
I talked with two of my shellfish biologists and here are their thoughts (see below). To get a more definitive answer you will need to be more specific. If you have a specific plan you could always run it past the Oregon State Police to see what they think of it. They are the one’s who actually enforce fish and game regulations.

Thanks for asking. Let me know if I can help further.

Brandon Ford
Public Information Officer
Marine Resources Program

My three cents might include an interpretation on “exchange of ownership”. I think that if he gives them away (complete with transfer record) he could probably be given something in return. As long as he’s following all the regs, he could give scott his limit of softshells and scott could be so moved by that gesture of gererosity that scott might give stuart the limit of crab that he just grabbed while diving. I agree that if it turned into a business type venture then it would be commercial and would require standard permits.

We might suggest to him in a very basic statement that commercial exchanges require permits and he could check with Arthur on what he might need.

Ok, that’s all for now, gotta go get clams.

mitch

Hey Brandon,

If they are selling them, it is commercial.

If they are bartering with them, I would guess it is also commercial

In either of these cases, permitting is not easy.

If he is eating them, all is well and ownership can be “transferred”

If it is “sport” harvest to go in an aquarium they cannot transport them live technically, we have no allowances built in regs for home aquariums… Arlene has dealt with this issue many times, and would suggest talking to her.
Thanks,
Scott

Scott Groth
South Coast Shellfish Biologist
Marine Resources Program
Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife
P.O. Box 5003
Charleston, OR 97420
(541) 888-3307 x233
http://www.dfw.state.or.us/MRP/shellfish

I shot them another email to kind of clarify a few things, we'll see how long this takes Laughing

by steveweast July 29th 2010, 10:01 pm

From what I understand, it is the transport that is buried in the gray area.....not the collecting of the animal. As ridiculous as it sounds, the regs suggest that transporting live animals is regulated....but, taking a dead starfish and transporting it...is not. If it is for human consumption, then it is OK dead or alive. I find it disturbing that the end use justifies the regulation. I hope I'm wrong here and that you find out the regs are more rational. There are transportation permits I believe though.

by **AquaticEngineer** September 24th 2010, 6:54 pm

Going collecting this sunday with my brother in Newport. I'll make sure and take lots of pictures of where we are collecting. We'll probably spend most of our time along the south jetty just up the road from the Oregon Coast Aquarium.
Here's a GOOGLE MAPS LINK to where we are going.

by **Hero** September 25th 2010, 12:07 am

The area looks promising! Good luck.

by Brent September 25th 2010, 1:13 am

Just make sure you know where those nasty sewer lines are coming out from. Razz

by **AquaticEngineer** September 27th 2010, 12:12 am

Tides were too high for us to collect anything cool, but I did manage to get a cooler full of quarter size and bigger rock for my substrate. Its looking much better now that the tank bottom is covered. Cool

by **Hero** October 1st 2010, 8:15 pm

I'm sure it does! Pictures please Very Happy

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by **AquaticEngineer** October 1st 2010, 8:47 pm

Like I mentioned, it was a pretty crappy day but it made for some cool pictures. Here you go Very Happy

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And here's a few tank pics:
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by **Hero** October 1st 2010, 10:09 pm

Nice tank pics Very Happy

and interesting jetty...

by Brent October 2nd 2010, 5:49 pm

That's looking good. c:

Like PF said, that jetty is different.

by **AquaticEngineer** October 2nd 2010, 6:12 pm

Yeah its kinda cool because it has an access road that runs parrallel to it the whole length and on the land side you can see it build up those man made tide pools. In the past when I've went at low tide its full of starfish, and hermits and other cool stuff.

Also, tons of divers go out there along the jetty. I saw like 7-8 while I was there. Next time I'm going to see if I can get em to bring me up something nice and I'll buy em lunch Very Happy

by Brent October 2nd 2010, 6:32 pm

AquaticEngineer wrote:Also, tons of divers go out there along the jetty. I saw like 7-8 while I was there. Next time I'm going to see if I can get em to bring me up something nice and I'll buy em lunch

Bribery or business?

Or a cunning strategy to allow yourself access to otherwise unavailable livestock?

by **AquaticEngineer** October 2nd 2010, 6:54 pm

Brent wrote:
AquaticEngineer wrote:Also, tons of divers go out there along the jetty. I saw like 7-8 while I was there. Next time I'm going to see if I can get em to bring me up something nice and I'll buy em lunch

Bribery or business?

Or a cunning strategy to allow yourself access to otherwise unavailable livestock?

All of the above Cool

by moto826 October 5th 2010, 12:46 pm

ya now i got a cold water i need to learn to dive lol but its chepper than coral

by **AquaticEngineer** October 8th 2010, 4:02 pm

Well for my birthday in November my wife and I are going to stay in Lincoln city, here is one of the tide pool areas near there. Its not in a marine garden or anything Excited

So collecting is totally cool Happy Dance

LINK TO TIDE POOLS IN LICOLN CITY

And here is just out side on the beach from the place we are staying
LINK TO ROCKS OUTSIDE OF HOTEL

by moto826 October 8th 2010, 6:41 pm

sweet looks like a cool place

by **AquaticEngineer** October 8th 2010, 6:57 pm

And the coolest part is that the tides will be cooperating with me during the trip. High tide is on Friday the 19th is at 10am with a +6.7 and then low tide is at 5:29pm with a 0.00 tide. So the tide will be going out almost the entire day I am able to collect Happy Dance

Then on Saturday the 20th high tide is 10:34 am with a +7.0 and then low tide is at 6:04pm with a -0.4

So both days the rocks should be well exposed during the time I will be there to collect. Just gotta get prepped with a hold over setup for the night with cold packs and airstones.......and find time to entertain the wife..... love

by moto826 October 8th 2010, 7:33 pm

that is what the night is for during the day is will be hunny put this in the cooler

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