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Post by Rambo March 5th 2010, 9:25 pm

Well, I decided to do something ive been wanting to do for a long time. A biosphere is a completely enclosed ecosystem. The hole thing is sealed, top, bottom, sides, and back. the goal is to create a self sustaining "world". It is possible by having comsumers, decomposers, and herbivores. By completing all necessary cycles including the water cycle, nitrogen cycle, O2-CO2 respiration cycle, carbon cycle, food chain, and nutrient export cycle. By calculating correct humidity and air pressure. And making sure that the creatures inside the tank WILL breed. Because if not everything fails. All this is done very easily with a simple little setup with wroms and a plant but not a whole diverse ecosystem like im tackling. It will be 25% land and 75% freshwater. With the land mostly stocked by moss and insects and the water stocked with simple animals like bugs and maybe a few ghost shrimp. This whole project is essentially basicly its own little planet without any outside interference excep for the laws of gravity and the theory of waves. My prediction is that in the beginning some things will die out until there is an O2-CO2 equilibrium. Basically if some algae doesnt have enough CO2 then some of it will start to die off until it has enough and it goes the same way with the animals except with O2. this project will be called Biosphere-4 because Biospgere-1 is Earth, #2 is a failed project attempted by a bunch of scientists except they wanted to be able to live in it to, and #3 is a succesfull project performed by the Soviet Union.

Tell me what yall think.
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Post by Hero March 5th 2010, 9:37 pm

Oh i've seen these. They look crazy. Tell me how it goes.
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Post by Bluntokian March 5th 2010, 10:55 pm

Iv been wanting to do something like this. I never seen any examples of anyone even attempting anything more complex than some moss & a few worms so it was kind of disheartening. If you have any good places to read up on it can you drop me a link?
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Post by Rambo March 5th 2010, 11:14 pm

they have a product called ecosphere. i bought one. Its a saltwater one with some shrimp and algae but that is just plain to simple. The one Im making is much more complex. Ill keep yall updated.

As for reading. There is not much on it so you kind of have to figure it out on your own. I basicly research everything needed for life on Earth to exist and that gives you an idea of what you need.
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Post by Brent March 5th 2010, 11:23 pm

Wouldn't you still need filtration and lighting..?
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Post by Rambo March 6th 2010, 12:01 am

filter-no light-yes. the organisms act as a biological filter.
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Post by Brent March 6th 2010, 12:05 am

Really? That's awesome! I think if the biotope idea works for you I might give it a try.
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Post by Hero March 6th 2010, 12:47 am

However i think they have a balance figure out with the shrimp and all. You might need a really big sphere.
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Post by Bluntokian March 6th 2010, 1:27 am

hmmm...I have just sparked an idea...I think it will be amazing Very Happy
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Post by Rambo March 6th 2010, 10:44 am

wait what? well the ecosphere with the shrimps really has no equilibrium in all of them. When I bought mine there were tons of ecospheres but every single one of them had a differant amount of shrimp, algae, and rocks. So my theory still stands here as even though they all had differant amounts in them they all were still succesfull. because they balanced them selves out.
I am gonna start the experiment today The top is gonna have ridges so that it can basicly rain.
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Post by Brent March 6th 2010, 12:26 pm

Ridges..?
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Post by Rambo March 6th 2010, 12:33 pm

little bumps so that the evaporation can driop down on the whole tank.
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Post by Brent March 6th 2010, 12:38 pm

That's really brilliant. Great idea!
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Post by Bluntokian March 6th 2010, 1:30 pm

Get some pics up!
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Post by Brent March 7th 2010, 8:44 pm

+1

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Post by Hero March 8th 2010, 11:22 pm

Hmm. Just be ready to crack it upon and move it to aquarium in case things go wrong.
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Post by Bluntokian March 8th 2010, 11:30 pm

Anacharis for the gold fish to eat!
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Post by Rambo March 9th 2010, 10:52 pm

wow. lol. Ill make take some pics tommorrow. the plants grew an inch today Shocked
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Post by Bluntokian March 9th 2010, 10:58 pm

What plants you got?
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Post by Rambo March 9th 2010, 11:14 pm

wild ones Im not sure of their name but I do know that they dont get to big, and lots of moss, I beleive its star moss.
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Post by Bluntokian March 9th 2010, 11:28 pm

You should have went with grass. Grass grows in dirt without a lot of nutrients and actually generates nitrogen witch is the key macro nutrient for vegitative growth.
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