Northeast Pacific Bay Pipefish Tank
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Northeast Pacific Bay Pipefish Tank
I'm setting up a tank specifically for green pipefish native to the northeast pacific.
I tried keeping them in my other coldwater tanks but either the flow was too much for them, or the tank occupants where too agressive for them. So I'm going to dedicate a tank for inside my house instead of my garage just for pipefish and other more delicate coldwater animals.
Here's some pics of the ones I've had in the past:
The tank I'm using is a 1" thick acrylic tank about 30 gallons, with a coast to coast overflow. It will have a closed loop going to a chiller and a mini fridge auto feeder I built. I'll run it right around 55 degrees and use the auto feeder to feed them with Reef Nutrition Mysis Feast. I'll also keep a good amount of live shrimp in the tank that will eventually become food I'm sure.
Best part about all the rock being on the two sides is that I have a place to adhere bivalves without having any rock in the sand to take away from the seagrass bed
Here's pics of the tank so far:
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I tried keeping them in my other coldwater tanks but either the flow was too much for them, or the tank occupants where too agressive for them. So I'm going to dedicate a tank for inside my house instead of my garage just for pipefish and other more delicate coldwater animals.
Here's some pics of the ones I've had in the past:
The tank I'm using is a 1" thick acrylic tank about 30 gallons, with a coast to coast overflow. It will have a closed loop going to a chiller and a mini fridge auto feeder I built. I'll run it right around 55 degrees and use the auto feeder to feed them with Reef Nutrition Mysis Feast. I'll also keep a good amount of live shrimp in the tank that will eventually become food I'm sure.
Best part about all the rock being on the two sides is that I have a place to adhere bivalves without having any rock in the sand to take away from the seagrass bed
Here's pics of the tank so far:
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Re: Northeast Pacific Bay Pipefish Tank
I guess that means you'll be making a tank with Zostera marina because that is their natural habitat obviously. Which means for a substrate I'd go with "bay mud" as it's called.
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Re: Northeast Pacific Bay Pipefish Tank
I was just talking about this last night with my friend.
He thinks I should go with miracle mud and sand.
I want to try taking mud and sand from where the grass is already growing.
His thoughts are that its a tried and true method of keeping tropical seagrass and that it wont have the decay and detritus that would be in natural substrate.
I think most people use the miracle mud because they cant get the natural substrate that the seagrass is growing in anyways, I'm also not a big believer in miracle mud.
What do you guys think?
He thinks I should go with miracle mud and sand.
I want to try taking mud and sand from where the grass is already growing.
His thoughts are that its a tried and true method of keeping tropical seagrass and that it wont have the decay and detritus that would be in natural substrate.
I think most people use the miracle mud because they cant get the natural substrate that the seagrass is growing in anyways, I'm also not a big believer in miracle mud.
What do you guys think?
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Re: Northeast Pacific Bay Pipefish Tank
I think that if you can get the right grass you can get the right mud.
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Re: Northeast Pacific Bay Pipefish Tank
I decided I'm going to go with a different type of seagrass. Instead of the native species that grows in sand flats and seems to die off during the winter months, I'm going to go with another native seagrass commonly referred to as "surf grass". It grows attached to large rocks, requires no substrate at all, and apparently doesn't die back like the other grass I was looking at during the winter.
Should be pretty cooling since I can attach the surf grass to the fake rocks and keep the sand bed open for burrowing animals
Also picked up my stand today, still need to get the black acrylic cut to cover the two visible sides and the cover pieces for the filtration area of the tank. Stand was a custom job by a local guy who came out and took measurements for me to make sure the mini fridge and chiller would fit underneath in the stand inside of the footprint of the tank. It had to be open on the two wall facing sides to allow for ventilation of the fridge and chiller, and I still may get the acrylic side pieces for the stand done with louvers cut in them for vents.
Did some test fits and checked the routes for the plumbing. Still needs to be skinned in acrylic, but you get the idea
Should be pretty cooling since I can attach the surf grass to the fake rocks and keep the sand bed open for burrowing animals
Also picked up my stand today, still need to get the black acrylic cut to cover the two visible sides and the cover pieces for the filtration area of the tank. Stand was a custom job by a local guy who came out and took measurements for me to make sure the mini fridge and chiller would fit underneath in the stand inside of the footprint of the tank. It had to be open on the two wall facing sides to allow for ventilation of the fridge and chiller, and I still may get the acrylic side pieces for the stand done with louvers cut in them for vents.
Did some test fits and checked the routes for the plumbing. Still needs to be skinned in acrylic, but you get the idea
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Re: Northeast Pacific Bay Pipefish Tank
I've never heard of surfgrass, but it sounds like the better choice. The tank looks great. Maybe I missed this, but what kind of circulation is going to be present in the tank?
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Re: Northeast Pacific Bay Pipefish Tank
I think I'm going to drill the return in lower in the back through the over flow wall so I get an upwelling effect.
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Ah I see. I was wondering how you would get the surfgrass to rise to the surface. Then again it probably naturally orients itself towards the surface.
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Re: Northeast Pacific Bay Pipefish Tank
It trys to, but I've been having that problem with it in the tank I'm holding it in right now which is why I thought about an upwelling. I have an upwill current my my main display tank with closed loop.
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How are the pipes going ? ..The sea grass that dies off ,might not under summer light settings ,just run it under 16-18 hour days and it should be fine ,worth a test if you want to run natural habitat..
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Re: Northeast Pacific Bay Pipefish Tank
Tank is sitting in my garage still
Gotta finishe drilling the return and skin the stand before I can bring it inside.
Pipefish should start showing up pretty regularly now in the areas I collect in. So if I get some this weekend I bet that will kick me into gear to finish it, lol.
Gotta finishe drilling the return and skin the stand before I can bring it inside.
Pipefish should start showing up pretty regularly now in the areas I collect in. So if I get some this weekend I bet that will kick me into gear to finish it, lol.
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Re: Northeast Pacific Bay Pipefish Tank
Our pipes, Syngnathus typhle and Nerophis ophidion have not shown their snouts yet, but I'm waiting for them to show up any day now...
I'm just worried that my anemones will eat them up, like they did my stickle backs!!
The 2" Actinias ate some 3,5" fishes as lunch!! All of them...
I'm just worried that my anemones will eat them up, like they did my stickle backs!!
The 2" Actinias ate some 3,5" fishes as lunch!! All of them...
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